(Also, please don't downvote-bait or whatever that first bit was. Also tedious, and actually against the guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html - see the second-from-last...)
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28321103.
Can't blame you for keeping HN tidy. I honestly wasn't trying to bait anyone and definitely didn't expect that crazy tangent. Will hold my tongue on off topic quips in the future. Thanks for the tip on the community guidelines!
Sorry to point out the truth but Joe himself is an unaccomplished stoner and promotes lifestyle choices that are repugnant to me. I would never trust him with my kids. So why would I trust him with my time?
Others do a much better job of the long form interview and have themselves provided some value to society on their own merits. Tim Ferriss and Jordan Harbinger to name a couple.
Joe does look pretty hilarious these days. If you look at pictures of him younger vs now he went from decent looking italian showman to some alien humanoid. Becoming a muscleman who works out for hours, plus tries crazy things like his diet, pill regimen, and sitting in a sauna/ice bath for an hour daily is something he wants to do and it is his prerogative.
The only thing he really promotes heavily is for people to lose weight and stop eating junk food. Yeah he does have ads for Gatorade clone drinks but still I don't think he is really implying people should adopt his whole routine. It is easy to ignore and focus on the podcast content.
If you don't mind which lifestyle choices are you referring to?
>Not really sincere or actually interested in his guests more than he is interested in himself. I find he'll say he's interested and come back with some show of how cultured and learned he is by bringing some obscure minutiae.
There have been a lot of podcasts where he has no freakin clue how to add to the conversation so he tries to contribute topic he does know about (comedy, MMA, working out) but for the most part he sits and listens. For me if the guest is not interesting or acting in bad faith, I shut it off and move on with the understanding that I will rarely miss any insight from Joe himself. If he is friends with the person then I see a totally different vibe. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, just stating my observations.
At the end of the day he has repeatedly said that the podcast is just supposed to be two people sitting around "shooting the shit". In fact I only started listening in mid 2020 just because of some guest that intrigued me. I didn't even know who Joe Rogan was before that.
This is an interesting take. I personally find Joe Rogan to be an abhorrent human being that gives a platform to pseudoscientists and white supremacists, but I’ve never heard “his tens of millions of dollars are negated by the fact that he smokes weed” as a criticism.
Out of curiosity, what value does Tim Ferris provide to society? I’m not being sarcastic, I just only know him as the guy that wrote the four hour work week book, which I did not find substantive.
I've done a lot in my life. Enough to be proud of myself, if I may be so bold, but I'm nowhere near as accomplished as Joe Rogan; irrespective of how I or others may feel about him.
At the very least, he has impacted the lives of far more people than I, and given a platform to many others to do the same. I've impacted many, millions even, but I'm still nowhere near his capacity for influence.
Everything you said is subjective. I don't really like him as a person, but our personalities are different. His interviews and podcasts are interesting because he lets the guest talk, unlike many other hosts.
All in all I don't agree with your assessment. I'm sure they people you listed are nice, but you could apply your same shallow subjective critiques to them as well.
But lately he's anti-vaxx, conspiracy theory, and peddling nonsense that's going to get people killed. It's no longer worth listening to.