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Why hasn't that happened already in countries with very high vaccine rates, like Israel?

I’m from Israel, we were in an excellent condition couple of months ago, but once the vaccination started to lose its potency we see a steep rise in infections and hospitalizations. Now that we are deep into the booster shot we see the numbers of infections and hospitalizations start to drop again.

Israel's vaccination rate isn't that high? They are only 60% vaccinated.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628...

> Israel was the first country on Earth to fully vaccinate a majority of its citizens against COVID-19. Now it has one of the world's highest daily infection rates — an average of nearly 7,500 confirmed cases a day, double what it was two weeks ago. Nearly one in every 150 people in Israel today has the virus.

Not a great advertisement for non-sterilizing vaccines.

Why ignore the GPs argument? Israel has vaccinated 61% of their population. Of course the 39% who aren't vaccinated will continue to spread it like before, even more so if restrictions are lifted.

You see the sibling comment to that one, about how the UK's "very high vaccination rates" means that we've been out of lockdown for a while, are returning to normal life, and have very few hospitalizations for Covid? Well, we've only vaccinated 65% of our population, barely more than Israel - and I think we have demographics which lean more towards age groups at higher risk from Covid than Israel as well. The headline government figures are higher, but they're for over-16s which are the only group eligible for vaccination here.

The 61% is misleading because it includes children ineligible for the vaccine. My undertow that they’ve vaccinated something like 80% of adults (one of the highest on the world).

80% of adults is misleading because it excludes children who can still get the virus and spread it to others

tbh the concept of herd immunity doesn't care about who the law says can get vaccinated

An unvaccinated child has less chance of severe covid compared to a vaccinated adult. Covid is different between child and adults, reasonable to hypothesize that transmission is also different.

> Evidence from studies primarily done before vaccine approval for those 12 years of age and older suggests that staff-to-staff transmission is more common than transmission from students to staff, staff to student, or student to student.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-br...

"less chance of severe covid compared to a vaccinated adult" is an attempt to move the goalposts to an irrelevant point

if they're vaccinated, they count towards the numerator

if they are a person, and thus have a nonzero chance of getting infected, and a nonzero chance of infecting others if infected, they count towards the denominator

that's how you determine vaccination rate

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