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People are dying from simple stuff while waiting for ICU beds, but the anti-vaxx crowd doesn't really care.

https://people.com/health/u-s-army-veteran-dies-of-treatable...

https://www.ky3.com/2021/08/27/man-dies-waiting-icu-bed-fami...

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> waiting for ICU beds

Not saying this isn't happening, but the phrasing here is a little disingenuous - there are plenty of beds, just not enough doctors and nurses to staff them. And why is that? In many cases, it's because the doctors and nurses themselves refuse to take an experimental vaccine and are being furloughed or terminated.

Stop saying "experimental vaccine" because that's entirely untrue. It might have been true for barely reasonable interpretations of the term months ago, but it's certainly untrue now.

It's literally FDA approved at this point. My brain melts every time I read a COVID discussion on HN -- it's actually worst than Reddit at this point because people here believe they're _just so much smarter than everyone else_. Even more so than Reddit, which I previously believed was impossible.

In either case, the man died due to anti-vaxx sentiment. Either because anti-vaxx people were flooding the ICU, or because anti-vaxx staff were getting furloughed for non-compliance.

You're the one being disingenuous. The vaccine is not experimental. Its FDA approved.

There are some serious issues with FDA approval,for example the potential conflict of interest with pharmaceutical companies providing funding to the same entity approving their drugs

very few doctors and nurses are "getting furloughed". Pfizer is a fully approved vaccine by the FDA. Those people are just acting like children.

Is there data about how much of the staffing shortage is due to staff refusing to take a (non-ezperimental) vaccine, vs. staff deciding they'd rather have a job that doesn't expose them to covid every day, vs. staff that have died?

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