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They're really going out of their way to not say "Solaris".

They're really going out of their way to not use Solaris.

SmartOS is comprised of the Illumos kernel (with ZFS, DTrace, OS-level virtualization and next-generation KVM) with BSD package management and a GNU toolchain.

I used Solaris for almost 5 years and when Sun was bought I thought for sure the cool parts of it were doomed. Illumos popped up and I thought that they didn't have a chance, it would wither and die. It's very nice to see that is not the case.

They're really going out of their way to not use Solaris.

Considering that the Illumos kernel is basically the OpenSolaris kernel, I don't understand what you mean. They are using Solaris, but for some reason they're trying to hide it.

This project is certainly not using Solaris which is now an Oracle product (and trademark) and not open source. It is based on Illumos (which originally came from an OpenSolaris kernel as you said) but my understanding is that OpenSolaris as a project is dead. I don't think it's hiding something to name-check Illumos instead of OpenSolaris.

Illumos != Solaris, unless you'd like Oracle to beat you with a stick for trademark infringement.

I suppose they could refer to it in technical documents as "the OpenSolaris kernel", but by that same logic, an OS using the DragonFly BSD kernel should say it's using "the FreeBSD kernel".

Trademark disputes with hyper-litigious competitors would not be fun...

Well since they have a lot of former Sun engineers working for them I don't really think they have to SAY Solaris. As others have mentioned there are trademarks involved here too. Sun/Oracle have been hemorrhaging talent, particularly the former Fishworks team, for a while now and a lot of those people are ending up in places like Joyent.

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