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Excellent counterpoint about Java requiring an IDE because it’s so verbose. In fact when I complain about Java’s verboseness, Java fans tell me “who cares, just use your IDE’s ability to auto-generate code!” But of course that doesn’t help with the _reading_ of verbose code.

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Counterpoint counterpoint: an IDE is most definitely not required to write Java, but due to the ecosystem’s size, reliance on IDE and language’s simplicity (that does cause some additional verboseness), Java’s IDEs are top notch and I wager that you actually type less characters for the same codebase in Java than in some less verbose language due to them. So all in all, win-win with more readable code and less typing.

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