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Your anecdote goes against pretty much every study that shows motorists break the rules far more commonly than cyclists - in addition to the fact they kill multiple people every day.

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Which studies? You say "the rules" - I suspect it varies a lot by rule. Speeding? Yep, drivers are going to slip above the limit unless they're very careful, whereas you have to be a very capable athlete to do that as a cyclist. Running a red light or going on the pavement? I'm pretty sure cyclists break these far more often.

I don't understand your point, of course different road users break different rules, they have different rules. You can't speed on a bicycle as there's no requirement for a speedometer. Motorists are less likely to be fined for driving without lights are they're always present and largely automatic, you can't illegally park your bicycle on the pavement in London as it doesn't apply.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2019/05/10/cyclists...

https://whyy.org/articles/cyclists-violate-traffic-law-no-mo...

Thanks for the links. My point was that studies wouldn't invalidate mattlondon's observation that cyclists more often break laws that affect pedestrians. The studies you referenced do seem refute his claim "cyclists - as a general rule - totally ignore any rules" - presumably the non-aggressive majority aren't catching his attention.

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