Frameworks are not equivalent to abstractions. Frameworks are prepackaged abstractions - that is, a proper subset of all abstractions. If you can make better abstractions than those used by a framework, you might advocate not using that framework because you understand the value of (good) abstraction.

And the "realest" programmers even understand that there are different kinds of abstractions and that abstraction is both a noun and a verb for good reason. We shouldn't just think about what a framework provides today, but also how it structures the way we evolve our applications, i.e our own abstraction process.