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> but you can't download music onto it

You can, via the Watch app on the iPhone, though it’s not a great experience. Choose “Music” and then you can select albums or playlists to copy to the Watch.

It’s like syncing an iPod, except it’s only about a third as reliable and significantly slower.

I don't have any music in apple music, was hoping to listen to youtube music or podcasts when I exercise. Running around with a tablet sized phone is no fun.

Fair enough. Overcast supports podcast downloads on the Watch FWIW

You can load music on an Apple Watch, but it's probably not worth the effort for most people. The only time the feature is useful is if you're nowhere near your phone.

Yes but that's exactly why I got the watch, to be able to go on a run or to the gym without having to carry my + sized iPhone. I used to be able to clip the shuffle to my shirt and forget that it's there.

There's a Sony Walkman model running on Android, NW-A105 I think.