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I got the virus in late January 2020, before any lockdowns or vaccines. Haven't been ill since then. Now I'm hanging out in the periphery and listening to vaccinated people calling me a burden while the entire western world falls apart due to their genius plans. They decided I'm inconveniencing them and want to force me to get shots, but won't say it to my face, yet. I'll wait and see on these vaccines, but I'm not worried about mine or anyone else's health - mostly I'm just afraid of these people.

These are the people who ordered from Uber Eats throughout the pandemic and didn't give a shit about the poor guys and girls delivering their food at personal risk. The Zoom class thinks they know better than everyone else, and god help you if you don't fall in line.

These people throw everyone under the bus when they become inconvenienced by them. I wonder, is Snowden considered a conspiracy theorist now?

This is a political and class issue, not a health one.

Ok I hear you, but what's the alternative? I get it, you don't trust the people who are forcing you to get the shot. But how do we avoid hospitals from overflowing? I also don't trust big-brother but so far they're the only ones giving us a working solution (vaccines).

There are lots of people in this situation. In USA, to meet this administration’s standards you show proof of vaccination or weekly tests. It sounds like you’re the one who’s inconvenienced.

Rapidly shifting ethics, scientism, totalitarian discourse, and stripping people's rights - all over a background of harming people while claiming to help them - is not what I consider "inconvenience". I consider it stupid and dangerous, as does any free society.

Do you know the cost/benefit analysis results of the COVID interventions? They're not good, and they're going to get a lot worse in the coming years, not just in the west but particularly in poorer countries that have to deal with the economic fallout. They're estimating 20 million people are now starving to death because of the lockdowns (https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/six-fold-increase-pe..., https://unglobalcompact.org/take-action/20th-anniversary-cam..., https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/world/africa/coronavirus-..., https://www.france24.com/en/20200728-coronavirus-linked-hung..., https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/09/25/pandemic-pus..., https://devpolicy.org/recipe-for-disaster-covid-19-and-world..., https://ipdefenseforum.com/2021/03/u-n-official-warns-covid-...)

As for the vaccines you think should be mandated: https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/fda-produces-the-first-91-p... and thousands of people losing their jobs because they refuse (https://www.npr.org/2021/10/24/1047947268/covid-vaccine-work...). This is amazing progress, truly: you are helping the community.

Good fucking work, please tell us what else we should be doing - I think we might be able to save some lives by doing the opposite.

Your links talk about conflict as the source of food shortages, having health clinics close that served as nutritional outposts. More recently, studies blame high retail costs and decreased wages (i.e. inflation) because the commodity costs of staples like rice have not increased.

If, God forbid, you found yourself hospitalized for Coronavirus and were asked to give up your bed for someone else, would you?

> If, God forbid, you found yourself hospitalized for Coronavirus and were asked to give up your bed for someone else, would you?

You are arguing a hypothetical that would not happen (at least in the US). If you NEED to be hospitalized for Covid and ARE…no one is tossing you out of the bed or even asking you to give up your bed once you are there.

Nice side-step, you're right the interventions have nothing to do with it (even though all of the articles, besides the first, explicitly state that it's the core cause). Where do you think the inflation is coming from?

I wouldn't be hospitalized by COVID; I've already had it as I've already said. If I were in danger of being hospitalized from it I might just take the vaccine. As for your question, I dunno, would you?

Impressive, considering there were only 3 confirmed US cases of covid-19 in January 2020. Assuming your not in the US?

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