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> Could you please elaborate and point out real world examples that showcase any instability you implied?

It's hard translate anecdotes into evidence for things like this without dedicating a bunch of time to it -- either to tracking down bugs or other users, or carefully making sure that you have eliminated any project-specific problems or misconfigurations.

So I agree with the parent that Intellij products seem to be quite glitchy and to have chronically bad performance, but I haven't put the time in to fully understand why so I doubt I could convince you.

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> It's hard translate anecdotes into evidence for things like this without dedicating a bunch of time to it

This is how any credibility breaks down. Posting a bug report takes as much time as posting a message on HN.

Moreover, if these problems were so eggregious and so frequent as claimed, wouldn't you be more motivated to post something about them in order to get them fixed? I mean, most of jetbrains' product line is only available to paying customers.

But alas no example is given. Not even a faint description of what the problem felt like. Just a blanket accusation that the world-leading IDE company is unable to ship a stable IDE.

I get what you're saying, but I've been using JetBrains' products for about a decade (IDEA / Rider / CLion) and have run into my fair share of annoying bugs. A search inquiry into the the vast majority of them (by error messages or vague descriptions of the problem) usually finds an item in their bugtracker that's been sitting there from many months to many years without any obvious signs of activity (despite ACKs from the developers and multiple me-toos from the users).

I still prefer JetBrains' IDEs, but they are extremely glitchy. It's just a fact of life if you've spent any significant amount of time in them. They seem to just not care about performance and bugs the same way they care about churning out new features.

Well this is an HN comment section not a serious attempt at solving the problem. I have no reason to try to convince you, nor the inclination to produce a satisfying argument. But perhaps you should be less dismissive of people claiming things on here if for no other reason that it's kinda toxic and unpleasant.

Anyway, maybe the number of posters who are complaining about Jetbrains products on here is evidence to you that our issues are not, in fact, imagined.

Also, as the other commenter said, there are always open issues when I go look for the things that I'm experiencing. That doesn't chain the experience on my side.

Er, *change, not change.

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