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Comment by aero-glide2 | Hacker News Reader

Sad :( wish more people embrace open systems

Like what? There’s no realistic Linux phone and the alternative is an Android phone that doesn’t get updates after a couple years.

Many samsung phones get 4-5 years. Pixel too.

The apparent difference is security update only vs newer Android OS version.

Most non flagship Samsung shipping today with Android 11 will only get Android 12 then security updates only. So technically Samsung only provide 1 year, if security update counts then Apple is still supporting iPhone 5s, a phone released in 2013.

And are those really open?

More open. Not forced by Apple to use a single store.

Pixel devices can have after market OS images flashed. Samsung devices are locked up.

Teenagers just want a phone. Most don’t want to flash images.

I was just responding to your question.

Sailfish is great and the only device they have ever dropped support for got 7 years of updates.

https://blog.jolla.com/jolla7/

> Sailfish X is currently available in the countries of the European Union, UK, Norway and Switzerland ("Authorized Countries") and the use of our website and services to purchase Sailfish X outside of the Authorized Countries is prohibited.

Doesn't sound very "open".

That is only for a few proprietary bits (Android App Support, Predictive text input, MS Exchange support). Now, those features are very useful, but most of the OS is open source and the open source version is usable (without those features).

They also don't stop people from outside of those countries from ordering it.

Teenagers aren’t going to want a Sailfish phone.

I would rather a universal standard simple phone than open systems honestly in this case

Even as an OSS believer I just love apple design too much to not support this :(

Who needs an “open system” when you can have blue texts

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