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Unions are comprised of large groups of people, and are subject to make the same kinds of "self-serving" mistakes as any other large group of people (like corporations and governments and universities and churches and...).

Which is entirely the point!

Why should we trust a large monopoly like Google to have workers' best interests at heart when there's no counter-balancing force with the same power (be it a union, or trust-busting arm of the federal government)?

Everyone forgets that Google and Apple already colluded to suppress wages! https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2015/01/16/37...

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There is another counter balancing force...numerous other opportunities.

It's not a situation like Boeing where there's a very limited number of other places that you can take your skills.

The counterbalancing forces google actively colludes with you mean?

Is Google colluding with every employer and entrepreneur in the country?

Do they need to be to poke a significant hole in your argument? They colluded with basically all of the largest high paying employers in the SV ecosystem.

That is absolutely going to have a massive systematic effect on compensation.

Does a union fix that?

> There is another counter balancing force...numerous other opportunities.

The "take it or leave it" attitude strongly insinuates that corporations should be allowed dictatorial control over the manner in which work is completed. There are too many examples to point to which demonstrate the b.s. in this line of thinking.

I may be reading too much into what you wrote, but I never understand the libertarian need to reject government and union control but embrace everything corporate. It's plain weird.

I'm not embracing corporate. I'm embracing competition.

It's inherently unlibertarian to reject unions.

> Why should we trust a large monopoly like Google to have workers' best interests at heart when there's no counter-balancing force with the same power (be it a union, or trust-busting arm of the federal government)?

The answer is that we shouldn't, but the latter solution is much better than the former.

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