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SQL is not better than XML or JSON for representing data. They are all mappings of much richer data structures on a limited data model. But even setting aside these problems, there are some problems with a distrubted semantic web that are barely ever mentioned: the step from going from data to 'semantic' facts, how to deal identifying sources, and versioning/updates. I think it is very important to record who (person or institution) is the source of a certain fact or the 'linking' of facts between multiple sources. Cryptographic keys, just as in blockchains, could help to link data of distruted sources such that it is possible to verify the source of a fact to sources/authorities and correct errors or deal with updates in case they occur.

There's one exception to the equivalence of SQL on the one hand to XML or JSON on the other hand. The point of SQL (and other DBMS paradigms) is to give access to data that's orders of magnitude bigger than the RAM in which the app runs. That has stayed true for at least a quarter century, during which RAM and database sizes both did the Moores-law exponential expansion.

A relational database maps everything to unordered relationships. Representing or manipulating a tree like structure is complex. Just representing an ordered list is complex. In XML and JSON everything is ordered and querying it as relational database is cumbersum. Graph databases and OO databases are somewhere in the middle.

But as I wanted to point out, which data models are used, is not the major obstacle to the semantic web. It is these other problems that are not addressed.

I feel Wikidata has a generally sane approach to these questions.

Wikidata is interesting. But it is a centralized approach. Is there an interface which gives the full breakdown of sources and where you can, through a chain of certificates (like those used for ssh and https), verify the sources?

Wikidata gives you a "full breakdown" of machine-accessible external identifiers for any entity. So, if you know how to query an external source, you can use it to verify any claim you care about.

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