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This was almost a year ago when vaccines were still new and the death/hospitalization rates of healthy 21 years olds from COVID is basically zero.

I’m 27 and have my jabs, and suggest others get theirs too, but I totally understand this perspective. In fact you couldn’t even get your vaccines in the UK last April at 21.

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But the 18-20+ group are still nodes in a complex system that includes others who aren’t so healthy. Our friend teaches an intro to sociology course at university. She also has a child with a chronic disease and an elderly parent whom she cares for. Walking into a lecture hall packed with unvaccinated 18+ students is unnerving, not because of their risk which is negligible but because of the downstream risks that they impose on the system. It’s not unreasonable to consider the risk of others with whom one interacts in reasoning through the decision to get vaccinated or not. Now I have no idea what exactly Rogan said but a categorical “No” is not the response I’d expect from someone who has really thought about the issues. But then again the blurring lines between entertainment and information has its risks.

This is irrational. I encourage everyone eligible to protect themselves by getting vaccinated, but vaccinated people also spread the virus.

https://www.businessinsider.com/delta-variant-made-herd-immu...

This is a bit of kitchen sink argument-- it was a long time ago! young people actually don't need the vaccine! he's just sharing his perspective! British people couldn't get vaccinated in April!

None of which addresses the claim in OP that people calling Joe Rogan "anti-vaxx" are "outright lying".

It is anti-vaccine to encourage young people not to get vaccinated. Simple as that.

> young people actually don't need the vaccine!

SARS-CoV-2 causes much higher rates of myocarditis in kids than the vaccines do:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e5.htm

Kids should still get vaccinated. They are at low risk from SARS-CoV-2, but risk of the vaccines are still even lower.

You left out the critical qualifier: "During March 2020–January 2021, ..."

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