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The people who have their lives taken away have little left to live for. The increases the violence and grows a movement you want to stop.

If Trudeau opened debate weeks ago I wonder where we would be today.

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He was never going to do that. The media immediately started on the "truckers are Nazis" line and took that option off the table.

You wish that Trudeau opened debate with people who demanded that his government be deposed and replaced by the protest organisers?

Thats precisely how communism fell in Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Round_Table_Agreement

Indeed, but we are not talking about bringing down an undemocratic government here. There are democratic ways to replace a government in a democracy.

The organizers never suggested that.

They published documents saying that.

Don't be so pedantic, people ARE literally dying because assholes keep spreading misinforamtion and the virus around.

If you want to talk about people whose lives have been taken away - there are far more Ottawa residents in the streets defying the police than there are truckers. This occupation has galvanized a small segment of the population, but there's a much larger group that was not politically active before and now they hate anti-vaxxers.

There was nothing to debate - the convoy does not have a cohesive message. Some of them are sovereign citizens. Some of them want the government to be dissolved. Some of them want some weird QAnon stuff. The only thing that unites them is shitting in the streets and driving around waving flags and honking.

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