it's the definition.
"chaotic systems" aren't just... unpredictable things that we find laying around and say "yeah we'll call that chaotic because it looks like my kid's bedroom". they've got to satisfy that description.
"chaotic systems" aren't just... unpredictable things that we find laying around and say "yeah we'll call that chaotic because it looks like my kid's bedroom". they've got to satisfy that description.
If you can QED me to a conclusion that yes, in fact, the sun will rise in the morning, I would genuinely find that useful.
> There was never room for any non-deterministic thing to magic itself into the system
Depending what you mean by "into the system," existence itself is a glaring counterexample.
How did any of it get here in the first place? Was there an uncaused cause? Is entropy reversible?
Until we can explain-away these types of questions, it'd be prudent to remain noncommittal on the topic. The type of determinism that sigstoats expect might not even make sense in other regions or eras of reality. Things get profoundly hazy past Planck Era.
Regarding existence itself, I agree that determinism is not an exhaustive set of possibilities (if it was, it would imply an infinite chain of causes, which presents its own problems). I just challenge the idea that one can possibly get a non-deterministic system if we assume that we're working with purely deterministic components/rules.
Whatever the Big Bang event was, I'm assuming it was a result of some exterior nature.
What I worry about is whether or not its even possible to connect the dots between the two.
Gödel's second theorem may just straight up make this whole exercise pointless.
Just imagining that outcome gives me the urge to primal scream.
All I know for certain is I've got a lot of questions.
sounds like you tried to take a flying leap away from the mathematically sound, and pedestrian statement of darawk into philosophy. you should warn people about that, so that people know not to bother.
> If you can QED me to a conclusion that yes, in fact, the sun will rise in the morning, I would genuinely find that useful.
if "gravity" isn't enough of an answer for you, then nothing can ever be.
Nice word. Does it have a definition?