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I have a Russian friend living abroad for a longer period of time and paying his day to day expenses with savings through credit cards. They all stopped working and he has no way to pay for anything anymore.

I get why it’s done but it’s still sad to see people that have nothing to do with this situation get hit like this

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My colleague's brother in Ukraine has had his day to day life interrupted by Russians dropping bombs on the city.

What does this have to do with the post you replied to? Two wrongs don't make a right.

Ukrainians also fall into the "sad to see people that have nothing to do with this situation", even more so I would argue.

The sad truth is that Russians cannot escape their shared responsibility.

What, by birth destiny or something?

That's like saying no American can escape their shared responsibility for Iraq, or Syria, or Trump. Doesn't matter how they voted, right. People vote in Russia too. Americans could have stormed the White House if they disagreed with the outcomes, or blockaded the city streets with trucks or something .... oh, wait.

Yes. Like I say, it's a shared responsibility.

The country represents all of you, and all of you represent the country.

It does when one is caused by the other.

Russian citizens did not cause this war...

But they are holding the guns and working in the factories that build the bullets…

The army has bullets stockpiled. If Russians refuses to run any factories starting today the war would still be on. It's not hard to find arms if you have money-- which Putin has

Russian citizens aren't getting bombed. They are getting economic sanctions. Considering these citizens are paying taxes that fund the war, I think they're fair game for economic payback.

This comment chain mentioned a Russian person living abroad. Supposedly they also pay taxes abroad, not in Russia, yet they are still affected.

they paid taxes on the money that is in the russian bank account still. the money that i have in my debit account comes from my salary. the taxes are paid before the net part hits my bank account.

Many other people experience taxation very differently than do you. Taxation is implemented in many ways.

You could say the same about the German citizens and WWII.

One could, yes. As far as I'm aware, even a matter of collective guilt (which is related but different from causation) is not exactly unanimously agreed upon between renown philosophers.

And just to be clear - I'm not saying it's true or false (heck, I have very mixed feelings), I'm saying it's arguable.

no, but it puts it into perspective.

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