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I do, because I believe we should call Putin's bluff. He wouldn't dare to shoot down NATO planes above Ukraine and would have to back down. In line with that, I don't believe NATO planes shooting down russian planes above Ukraine or vice versa would lead to a nuclear escalation.

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He shot down a passenger airliner and got away with it. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't give two fucks about shooting down NATO war planes. Just so we're clear on that.

Are you sure the world would react the way you expect to a NATO shoot down? To a nuke in Poland? Maybe our side isn’t willing to roast 100s of millions of Russians if push came to shove.

I don't know how you arrived from "shooting a plane above Ukraine" to a "nuke in Poland".

And no, of course we don't have any guarantees either way. But just like Putin puts his troops in Ukraine and says "what are you going to do about it", I believe we should do the same thing back - impose a no fly zone above Ukraine and call his idiotic bluff, he knows what attacking NATO would mean for him too.

Normally, I'd find your comment amusing, but I know there are policy folks out there with decision-making power that are pushing similar utterly idiotic narratives. That's very scary.

Oh yes he would dare. For him, the Ukrainian airspace is no different from Russia’s own.

Or so he says. There is be no point in bombing your own territory though.

And he won't be bombing his own.

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