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The Mac Studio's HDMI doesn't support 120Hz out (so likely HDMI 2.0?) and it also doesn't come with a keyboard and mouse.

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The complete lack of what HDMI port it uses is indeed pretty bizarre, but why would it come with a keyboard and mouse? The people who buy this already have those, or know which ones they need far better than Apple does, and will buy the exactly models they want on their own.

> The complete lack of what HDMI port it uses is indeed pretty bizarre

Isn't "Support for one display with up to 4K resolution at 60Hz" as stated on their specs page[1] pretty clear? It's an HDMI 2.0 port and I think mentioning the supported resolution and refresh rate is more helpful to customers than the HDMI spec version.

[1] https://www.apple.com/mac-studio/specs/

Side note: HDMI Forum pulled a USB and fucked their standard so forum members didn't have to upgrade their hardware. In the same way that USB 3.0 became "USB 3.1 Type-1" you can take HDMI 2.0 and essentially market it as HDMI 2.1 directly - it doesn't have to support 120 hz / 48gbps mode, it doesn't have to support VRR, etc. If it passes the HDMI 2.1 compliance testing, HDMI 2.0 hardware can be marketed as HDMI 2.1 without change.

So it could be HDMI 2.1 compliant, and still not support 48gbps mode.

(Which isn't quite the same thing as not supporting "120 hz" - it could probably do 120 hz over displayport/thunderbolt, or at a lower resolution, or with chroma subsampling - just not 4K120 4:4:4 because it doesn't have enough bandwidth)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo9Y7AMPn00

Seems like it shares the same shortcomings as the M1 Pro/Max family then.

At least the display port goes 120Hz beyond.

The Thunderbolt ports support 120Hz though. I've been using the company MBP 14" with a 144Hz display without a hitch.

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