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Xoogler here. Yes.

Rule of thumb on Google things: if there is a bug/decision that bothers you, there is a contingent within Google that is furious about it.

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And do their concerns get addressed somewhere up the chain? Do they even have ways to express their concerns?

I've heard there's a similar contingent within Microsoft complaining about all the ads and shady privacy stuff in Windows and they're just left to fester in the echo-chamber of internal Yammer.

Complete outsider here, but the Goomics series shed light on Google's internal culture and one of the recurring themes is the tone deafness of management towards internal dissent.

https://goomics.net/367/

https://goomics.net/334/

https://goomics.net/332/

https://goomics.net/315/

https://goomics.net/311/

https://goomics.net/290/

https://goomics.net/288/

For technical things I still find google better, mostly because the manage to get the most recent relevant version of a library, while DDG that was my default often returned out of date versions.

For anything with a political slant, hell no.

How do xooglers pronounce "xoogle" ?

“Zoo” “gull” “er”

ex-Googl{e,er}.

You mean there’s a contingent within Google that further compromises their moral integrity.

Edit: downvotes won’t help you sleep at night!

It seems to be quite a leap from "furious with a product change" to "compromising one's moral integrity".

I don't agree with every decision our PM's go with, but I don't feel compromised either.

> I don't feel compromised.

I get it.

It’s a long road from “dont be evil” to illegal wage fixing, mass ad fraud, omnipresent dragnet surveillance, and cooperation with totalitarian nation states; all of those with compunctions are long gone, the rest are like you.

I’m sure all the work you’ve done and your closest loved ones have done, had amazing “moral integrity”

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