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Comment by cbrogrammer | Hacker News Reader

will this laptop ever ship with a non-US keyboard layout? The enter key is so bad on them, I hate that it is long and not high. Dealbreaker unfortunately, wish I could buy one of these.

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As with other manufacturers, keyboard availability is determined by the region. If you import one from the UK, you'll have different keyboard options.

On top of that, the US marketplace has different keyboards available[1]: https://frame.work/marketplace/keyboards

[1]: if you're getting a redirect, switch your region to US

As noted by other commentors, we have a wide range of keyboards currently available with the laptop, including ISO ones. In the UK and countries in the EU we currently ship to, we have British English, French, and German, which are all ISO, and English International which is ANSI. In the US and Canada, you can also swap to any of those keyboards, plus a few others like French Canadian by picking up a keyboard in our Marketplace.

If anyone from Framework is reading this: It appears as though the image[1] accompanying the US International keyboard on the US Framework Marketplace[2] is inaccurate. It seems to be an ANSI keyboard with the word 'gr' crudely photoshopped into the right alt key. This is most likely a mistake, as the term 'US International' typically refers to an ISO keyboard. I would humbly suggest that Framework correct the image and clarify whether the keyboard in question is ISO or ANSI.

[1]: https://frame.work/marketplace/keyboards

[2]: https://frame.work/products/keyboard?v=FRANBKEN05

Our English International keyboard is indeed ANSI. The two differences are "Alt Gr" and a euro symbol (which is missing from that image, and which I've just captured as a bug internally). This is the keyboard layout most popularly used in the Netherlands.

^ edit: To elaborate, I believe ANSI is the correct layout for US International, but unfortunately more often than not, when I ordered US International, I got an ISO layout (n=2 out of 3). This leads me to believe that the term is ambiguous. It can mean either US layout + international labels, or US labels + international layout (the I in ISO).

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