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Comment by ed_elliott_asc | Hacker News Reader

I love the Touch Bar!

I don’t love the Touch Bar entirely, but I do really like the slider for brightness and volume.

I’d rather have fkeys for everything else. Maybe they could give us a mini touchbar just wide enough for going volume and brightness.

Brightness and volume are actually my two biggest touchbar annoyances… w/ older mbps I could simply feel my way to where I knew the keys were via muscle memory and adjust them with a few quick taps (or one long press) without looking or even having my eyes open. Near impossible with the touch bar.

Always good to remember other people can have different experiences, of course, so ymmv.

I thought I loved the slider for volume/brightness, and was concerned about losing them, but then realized how little I cared when I went back to no slider

I would love a full width Touch Bar right above the fn key row they just brought back. I don’t see why it has to be one or the other.

I’m surprised no one made an app that turns Touch Bar into fn (without having to press fn) and a button to switch to the apps choices.

Love Spotify with touchbar, debugging with vs code etc - shame it was hated.

A mini Touch Bar with fn keys above would be lovely!

> I’m surprised no one made an app that turns Touch Bar into fn (without having to press fn) and a button to switch to the apps choices.

That wasn't the issue. My main gripe with the touch bar is a lack of tactility; I don't need to look down at my hands to pinpoint the location of "F5" for debugging in VS Code, nor do I need to make sure my finger is hovering over the escape key before I press it. On top of that, capacitive touchscreens just don't make good buttons, my fingers frequently bump against the screen and trigger mutes and screenshots that simply wouldn't happen with a button. It's something of a usability nightmare.

> I’m surprised no one made an app that turns Touch Bar into fn (without having to press fn) and a button to switch to the apps choices.

This has been a setting in Preferences since a year or two after Touch Bar was introduced.

I think the touchpad would be the better location for the Touch "bar" rather than additional row

Volume slider is useless to me. I adjust volume with the scroll gesture on my mouse pad.

Oh, I would love it too, it's a really cool idea—but not at the expense of the F-keys. It's like adding backup cameras in cars; it's a great idea—but not if it replaces all the old physical radio and HVAC controls.

Coworkers always talk about how there are people out there who like them but I’ve never met one. Glad that you like it, drives me nuts.

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