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Yes - of my high school group of friends, far more than half moved to nearby Vancouver initially and since then, half have left the country for the USA or Europe. These are almost all educated people, so it’s brain drain.

I worry a lot about the future my kids have in this country. I don’t tell people that often, but my spider senses are tingling like crazy.

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Just moved back with mit degree. Couldn't wait to leave the us. Anecdata.

what were the anecdata reasons for moving there? the culture?

A bit of everything. I'm a simple person. Fun job with lots of time off and the Canadian wilderness is all I need.

That’s why I’m still here. I guess working in software meant it was easier for me to stay, so who knows. Maybe I would have gone with them had I felt stuck in some other career, but I’ve always earned more than most people I know simply because I know how to press the buttons on the keyboard better.

The wilderness here makes me feel like I could never leave. I’ve been plenty of other places, and the idea of not being in this place is unnerving. The ocean, the forest, the temperate climate, rain, all of it. I’ve come to feel a deep connection to it.

I feel that. I love the outdoors and Canada has plenty.

On the other hand, we're having a kid, and as much as I'd like them to grow up in the outdoors I'd also rather them be exposed to culture versus a bunch of hippies and redneck meth addicts... So we're making the move to Europe (back in the case of my SO).

Nice, seems like a good call! Loads of great cities in Europe aren’t far from great wilderness. Great culture. Your kids are lucky!

I seems plausible to me that a self-reinforcing death spiral could be well underway.

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