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I always hope these kinds of situations would lead to a market opportunity for someone to come in and do it right... but it rarely does.

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You can't create a market opportunity for something without it being a differentiating feature.

2022 Honda Civic but with physical buttons probably doesn't move the needle because car buyers are price sensitive and because 2022 Honda Civic with screen is still better than alternatives.

Funny you should mention the Honda Civic...

I had a 2017 Honda Civic Hatchback. First year of the new model design, it had a touch sensitive volume control... After that, I think it was the 2019 and up all Honda's came with a volume knob AS A DIFFERENTIATOR because the UX was so bad without it.

Right but that's a different market force! Customer feedback is really effective at redressing provably bad UX but it's a lot harder for that same change to happen in response to a competing manufacturer because in aggregate such a small thing isn't enough to get someone to switch away from Honda entirely.

I mean, it's the driving cause behind me selling the car and moving to a VW...

I think what really is needed is for these displays and interfaces to be replaceable like old car stereo decks.

Speaking of car stereos, I've always thought they should be rack mount and then they went away completely.

I wonder if someday we'll have an open-source car, sort of like the framework laptop. I think it would be amazing. Think of the robust market that has cropped up around custom PCs and custom bicycles.

The display in my car is a double DIN stereo that just happens to have a display on the front and a USB port. You might still be able to replace it.

It does take way too long to boot up.

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