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The problem with this approach is that a vague "because terrorism" can justify a heavy handed approach to a very large set of policies which have nothing to do with terrorism. And "because terrorism", "because covid", "because child abuse" become convenient tools for the government to force this or that policy on its citizens. It is a lot easier to claim "because terrorism" than to argue a policy on merits and respond to counter arguments.

The upstream question is harder to answer, though: if the majority of the governed support this approach, is it democracy in action or an autocratic overreach?

Well, unlike west in India the impact of the said terrorism are much more visible. In the 90s and 2000s, all the major cities were having routine attacks by the said terrorists, so you can see why it is easier to gain sympathy on anything that can be seen to act on it. It is quite a big issue in the country.

I am not saying that the terrorism (covid, child abuse, etc.) is not a big problem. It must be a big, highly visible problem to be used by politicians to justify their policies. But that justification is often lacking, as claiming that this is a fight against a highly visible, important problem suffices.

If terrorists attack Americans, they are called 'terrorists'.

If terrorists attack Indians, they are called 'militants' or simply 'fighters'.

Most people outside of India would be completely ignorant as to terrorism in India, so I wouldn't give their opinion much weight. I was pretty shocked that it was apparently common to have metal detectors at movie theatres, for example, at least in some cities - there's no real awareness of that outside of India/Indian diaspora as far as I know.

I’m old enough to remember when Indian terrorists used to call up journalists and editors and demand that they be referred to as militants.

I would like to remind you that ever since the current government came into power, the number of terrorist attacks in the major cities has drastically dropped.

At one point of time, it used to be regular news to hear about the jihadists bombing places.

I was about 8 or 9 when there was a bomb blast quite close to my house in Hyderabad. That was about 10 years ago.

Folks in the west appear to condemn others but not themselves, leaving a rather poor taste in the mouth.

But that reduction in foreign terror attacks happened all over the world.

The Mumbai terror attack was followed by similar attacks in Paris where civilians going about their day were targeted.

That wave of terror is over, probably because ISIS and AQ are no longer the force they used to be.

Now it’s domestic terror and social polarization.

Don’t think these laws are the reason why foreign terror attacks reduced.

The groups you mentioned have little to do with India. Some of the groups responsible in India were dealt with and some are still active mostly outside now.

I don't think AltNews received foreign funding. Nor was it possible for Razorpay to process the payment.

Interestingly, it's possible for political parties to receive foreign funding (via. Electoral Bonds) without much transparency to the electorate about how much they receive.

Razorpay might be in trouble for processing foreign funds without FCRA approval.

No foreign donations

We do not accept foreign remittance as we are not registered under the FCRA Act. Only Indian citizens with Indian bank accounts can donate currently.

International credit cards were always disabled for Altnews.

If you are an Indian citizen, please consider donating to them. And by that way you can verify yourself.

https://pages.razorpay.com/altnews

Done. ₹5k. Keep journalist-ing. Good luck. Fcuk these high handed politicians.

The razorpay account on which altnews is on did not allow to accept payments from foreign countries.

Out of the payments done through Indian banks to altnews, the government is searching if there is a foreign IP address. The social media trolls are making an issue that altnews is being funded by terrorists from Syria and other countries

Any idea how much money came in from the so called terrorist wih Indian bank accounts with a foreign IP addresse? It's 2500$

It's a mere 2500$

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livemint.com/news/india/alt...

Altnews don't receive payment from abroad. You know it well, and you won't say it here. We all know the reason.

No, actually, "we" don't all know whatever you're not talking about.

The OP knows.

Please do not take HN threads into flamewar.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32000429.

How many terrorists activities did Amnesty International sponsor? Why were they shut down if they didn't..

I agree, but We need focus now on Hindu Terrorism. That's the major threat to the country and the world.

Can you give examples from the world where they have killed people or been involved in violence in general in the name of religion?

There is sufficient Hindu diaspora outside, so this comment seems extremely uncalled for.

Actually, it's fanaticism in all its forms that's the major threat to countries and the world.

Exactly. No one is talking about how a Muslim tailor was killed by a bunch of Hindus and brazenly captured in video which also threatened the country's PM of a similar fate. The Hindu community then proceeded to pelt stones on the Police which came to arrest the killers.

remember akhlaq who was killed for allegation of eating beef, by hindu terrorists of india? Remember the hindu terrorist shambhu lal regar, who killed a man on live facebook, then proceeded to burn his body.

it's high time the world recognizes this issue and places security concerns in respective countries for people having such bent of mind.

Your language is one which is mostly employed by leftists Congressis, psuedo-liberals and radical Muslims in India. This "Hindu terrorist" word has been coined by such people to whitewash the horrific crimes done by radical Muslims in India and all over the world. Do you have a single incident to show where Hindus have been involved in a terrorist activity in any part of the world?

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