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> It's also unpatented and cheap

All of these vaccines are cheap.

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> All of these vaccines are cheap.

Not if you have to take them several times a year until the end of your life

Really, because:

Let me do the math...

$0+$0 = $0

Seems pretty cheap to me.

Maybe if you mean for gov who pays, but even then, in terms of health care budget, its still quite cheap, to the point that optimizing on price seems like the wrong thing to do right now.

Did that include increased taxation? Including bribes, inefficient bureaucracy and manufactures, their sales organizations and the point-of-care healthcare increasing their profits?

I mean,im in canada, and the non vaccinated take a lot of tax dollars when they end up in hospitals, so in terms of interventions it definitely makes sense from an ecconomic perspective.

Even then they would be fairly cheap.

But it’s all a giant conspiracy dude!

The vaccines which nobody is taking and cost under $20 are worth pharma companies engaging in secret underhanded methods to hurt other vaccines (even though all their FDA filings and research are mostly public).

If you want to make claims regulated by the FDA, you have to hire all these FDA consultants, many of whom are former FDA employees. They don’t seem to do much IME. So there’s a serious revolving door problem worth investigating in the case of these vaccines, though I’m not sure that’s secret, underhanded, or necessarily hurting other vaccines.

> cost under $20

Per-dose cost is meaningless. Now do “multi billion dollar government paid for contracts”.

Yes they have huge contracts but they also have to produce the vaccine! And the vaccine could be waaay more expensive given its value to the people who took it.

Merck stock (no vaccine) had the exact same return as Pfizer over the past 5 years.

Now Moderna is up 800%, so maybe look their way if you are concerned about a conspiracy.

Look at the balance sheet not the stock market reaction.

The vaccines are arguably being marketed to people for whom its more expensive than its worth: the young and healthy.

> even though all their FDA filings and research are mostly public)

Can you point me again to Pfizer's public data about the mRNA trials? Because I'm pretty sure it was never shared.

https://www.fda.gov/media/144337/download

You think the FDA is going to make a decision about a vaccine without a preregistered, public, clinical trial?

Go ahead and request the data and see if you can actually get it. The FDA is so corrupt that who would actually trust them after the opoids crisis?

Pfizer did not accept US government funding, and as such did not have to share the same data that other companies did.

You're posting an excessive amount of fear mongering in this thread.

Ever heard of the Freedom of Information Act? The Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency has sued the FDA so that they would release documents related to the review of the vaccines.

https://phmpt.org/

> You're posting an excessive amount of fear mongering in this thread.

Funny that quite a few actual doctors subscribe to my fear mongering as they signed this request. Ever wondered if your point is valid?

$20 times a billion people times multiple doses is a lot of money.

And I think it's more than a billion people...

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