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Rust adoption very much seems to be ramping up within the really big companies. Google talking about it both for Android and Chrome, FB with a ton of things, Apple had uses for it I think but I'm blanking on what, Amazon is using it for at least some new AWS infrastucture...

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It's commonly used at Cloudflare too. You're probably browsing pages piped via Rust services every day.

Note that on Android it is only endorsed for system code by Google itself and OEMs, officially there are no plans to support it on the NDK, or Android Studio.

Yeah sorry I should have been more specific that I meant used in the operating system. That was my bad.

Nothing prevents Google to eventually change their mind in regards to its support on userspace, however given how the NDK has been managed all these years (as a kind of side project at least from the outside), I pretty much doubt it.

Right the future could be anything, so we might as well just talk about the present.

Microsoft has been using it internally as well.

Yeah. They are both writing code in Rust and also dabbling in creating a language of their own to see how that goes, not necessarily with the intent of releasing it, but at least exploring the space from first principles instead of being incumbered by Rust's decisions. I think the name started with V but I cannot find it right now with quick Googling.

I believe you're thinking of Project Verona.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/project-ver...

I wouldn't put much stock in MSR languages until they get usage in other orgs. There's at least a dozen research languages in flight at a given point in time.

They used to have this great site were you could interact with them all: https://web.archive.org/web/20180130101736/https://www.rise4...

Source: I'm a former member of RiSE

To be fair, many modern C# features have started their life in MSR languages and eventually found their way to C#.

It is also where F# started, although they seem not yet to know where to push it, or if it was a good idea to actually box it in VS 2010.

Verona is less interesting in the language that I expect to make it into the world sense and more they may learn things while exploring safety that can be applied by someone else. Rust does a lot of good with exploring the safety space, but I hope we don't simply let that be the end of any exploration of building safety into the language at a deep level.

This is it, thank you for digging it up!

I look forward to seeing Rust# (or R# for maximum confusion).

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