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I just deployed my first app to render. Was a good experience.

However, they delete your database after 90 days if you do not have a paid plan. From https://render.com/docs/free#free-postgresql-databases

"Render’s free database plan allows you to run a PostgreSQL database that automatically expires 90 days after creation. Free databases are suspended after 90 days (unless they are upgraded to a paid plan), and are no longer reachable at this point."

The paid plans do start at $7, and you can share a database across many apps, though.

And if you have static site or a site without a database, it looks like it is forever free.

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You can try Neon(neon.tech). Disclaimer I’m CEO. We architected Neon such that it’s very cheap for us to keep the database forever.

It’s still behind the waitlist but it’s coming off in a few weeks. Also if you onboard via hasura.io there is no gate.

Another great option with a similar approach that's now publicly available with a generous free tier is CockroachDB serverless

This looks pretty cool! From the docs it sounds like one can pick the underlying cloud provider and region, is that true?

I tried out Render and I must say I was not impressed. Every deploy took 3-5 minutes even with a Hello world Node app. Maybe it was that slow because I was using the free tier? In comparison, fly's deploy was also slow the first time but was significantly faster for subsequent deploys.

Free tier deploys are slow (but not on purpose). We're planning to unify our free and paid architectures so builds are fast across the board.

Supabase is the best place to let a VC fund your free DB.

Only if you are willing to fuck with it every week or two to keep it alive. They changed their free tier recently and they now turn off your project if it’s not “active”. (They don’t delete it, but your have to log in and turn it back on.)

I'm not an expert but I believe it boils down to something connecting to the DB within a week, which seems do-able once things are running and maybe a tiny hassle during initial dev if it's a weekend hobby project.

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