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This has been attempted and "paused" after the backlash. [1] I should add, I don't know what paused means in this context.

As a fun side note, DHS is short for the Department of Homeland Security. KGB is short for Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti which translates to Committee for State Security. I do not understand why this organization exists when we already have the NSA, especially if they are attacking free speech. Would it be possible to move their budget to the NSA? False statements must not be censored, but rather countered by facts.

[1] - https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/05/18/disinfo...

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I've been thinking we need some sort of checks-and-balances system for the administrative branch, if we let it continue at all. Every agency must have a corresponding shadow agency with equal funding and incentives aligned with policing their counterparts. Instead of just the FBI, we would have the blue FBI and the red FBI.

Also, every 20 years, one of the agencies is disbanded entirely and replaced with a new one.

> Every agency must have a corresponding shadow agency with equal funding and incentives aligned with policing their counterparts. Instead of just the FBI, we would have the blue FBI and the red FBI.

At that point you’ve bifurcated power and removed any rational checks and balances.

With partisans running the show we’d be spending millions investigating Hunter Biden and Don Jr.

Plus, now 3rd parties would have an even higher barrier to entry.

>I do not understand why this organization exists when we already have the NSA

The TSA (division of the DHS) exists to condition Americans to having their 4th amendment rights violated:

The fourth Amendment:

>The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Every single search conducted of a person in the US travelling without a warrant is a violation of the 4th amendment because it is absolutely unreasonable to search every single person from 80 year old grandmas travelling to see family and children going on vacation.

> I do not understand why this organization exists when we already have the NSA

More money for defense contractors?

The NSA always seemed like a strange name. Their primary function has always been cryptography and the mathematical research to power it, kind of like the national laboratories are to nuclear physics. Then at some point physical interception of the phone and internet networks got added on to that. But as far as I know, they do not do assassinations, psychological operations, etc. like the KGB or CIA does. It seems like it should have just been called the National Cryptologic Agency or something like that.

The article is pretty clear that although the board was shut down due to backlash, DHS hasn't stopped this new "mission" to censor speech the government doesn't like.

The DHS has a mission to fight this. It’s in the law that created the DHS. If people don’t want an open project they’re gonna get a closed one.

Can't I just not want a DHS?

WRONG. Read the article. It is continuing with monthly meetings.

You are right. It's even worse and many other organizations are involved. Here is some discussion with an investigative journalist. [1]

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZNfE8GKokQ [video]

I decided to give DHS less shit when they actually court marshaled a general.

(I read about the case on NPR.)

Source? Trying to search brought up this but I'm not seeing the DHS connection. https://www.npr.org/2022/04/24/1094545002/air-force-general-...

The only uniformed services branch under DHS is the Coast Guard, so if the OP is correct in talking about DHS and not DoD, it must have had to do with that branch.

you could type "air force general conviction" into any number of search engines... apparently there's only been one.

I searched "DHS court-martial general" and the only thing that came up was the Air Force court-martial I linked to, and I don't see the DHS connection you mentioned. The Coast Guard is under the DHS, the Air Force is under the Department of Defense.

In/out CONUS/OCCONUS FBI/CIA DHS/NSA

I'll post this as a guess, and hopefully someone will come along and correct.

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