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As much as the tracking I fear the access control.

Made some stupid comment online while being drunk? We take your ability to by transportation passes/plane tickets...

IIRC this is already happening in China.

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Or Canada during the trucker protests.

More scary IMO because the US / Europe will never be China, but it's easy to see some president in the US logic their way into the same position as Canada, and use the same state apparatuses to banish dissenters.

No-fly lists don't require instant payments, so I don't know what point it is you're trying to make.

You can still use a train.

Not in china though:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/1/18246297/china-transportat...

I've read that is wrong, depending on what you define as (usable) train.

Allegedly there are the 'green' trains, because using older green wagons.

They aren't high-speed, but drive everywhere. As do busses. Which allegedly you can use. Just takes longer.

Can you provide an example?

Exactly as parent mentioned - in China, if you mess with Party or they just deem you undesirable for whatever reason ie ethnicity, you can't purchase plane tickets, not even domestic ones. Heck, not even trains so you can't effectively travel within China. No mortgages/loans. Of course it will affect your hiring options badly. I believe it goes way deeper. China is already 1984 for a decade+

That's not an example, I want a specific example

So almost like when you have a felony record in the USA?

What impact does this actually have? Can you not get a credit card any more?

You are excluded from most decent jobs and relegated to an underclass.

you can't travel even domestically? or get a credit card?

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