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I wonder what is the Mozilla's position on JPEG XL.

Mozilla's engineers are enthusiastic about JPEG XL, but their directors less so. Mozilla's director a year ago: "I'm locking this conversation as it has passed the new information stage." This is not a great position, as loads of new information about human rater studies has been obtained, the codecs have advanced further significantly, the ecosystems are developing, industry is developing their stance, and even new objective metrics to evaluate codecs have been developed.

I'd like to highlight two things there:

My arguments for JPEG XL: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/522#is... -- it comes with links to 3rd party evidence of the somewhat outrageous but correct claims.

Jon's arguments for JPEG XL: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/522#is...

Mozilla is one of the founding members of AoM backing AVIF/AV1. They're shipping AVIF support enlabled.

The JPEG-XL bug hasn't received any news or updates for at least a year now and the support is disabled on all stable builds (meaning: you can't even enable it with a flag since it's not compiled in). You can enable a flag on nightlies.

It hasn't received news or updates because it has been locked. Basically Mozilla's position seems to be that they're not going to do anything on this front until Chrome does it first. I can only assume the decision makers at Mozilla feel the need to "prove their loyalty to the AOM", just like the Chrome codec devs, by blocking non-AOM codecs, in particular JXL.

Sad joke was that they are waiting for an “alternative implementation”, yet I’m still shocked that Mozilla people are alluding to that elsewhere in this very thread. Unbelievable…

Or, they just don't have the resources, market share, or interest to fight this battle. I can think of many better things FF should do other than try to push forward a new image format.

It is not a battle, everyone wants the same: to create the best experience for all the internet users by using free software.

We can arrive to the best solution by listening, by creating and studying the evidence, and by discussion.

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