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The title should be renamed "Available today, the Oceanic+ app on Apple Watch Ultra"

Because the current title of "Apple Introduces Oceanic+" implies this is a 1st party app from Apple, which it is not.

Why change from one made up title to another when we could just use the _actual_ title: “Reach new depths with the Oceanic+ app and Apple Watch Ultra”

“Available today, the Oceanic+ app on Apple Watch Ultra” is directly quoting the sub-title, from the press release.

Seems like the proper candidate for HN story title, to avoid the marketing-speak in the actual title.

Sounds like an ad.

it is an ad

We usually change corporate press release titles because they're usually misleading, linkbaity, or both.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

Thanks, I've changed it now. It still sounds too pressreleasey but not too bad.

No part of the definition of “introduction” implies that it is a first party app.

To introduce: “…; originate: introduced the new product in several test markets; ….” [1]

[1] https://www.thefreedictionary.com/introduce

It still doesn’t imply it’s a first party product. I can “introduce Angular to my team”. That doesn’t mean I wrote Angular.

"Google introduces Angular" does mean that (even if you didn't knew what Angular is beforehand)

It absolutely doesn’t. People have been “introducing” other people for centuries.

Where in any dictionary doesn’t imply any such thing?

So if a consultant from McKinsey “introduces cloud best practices to company $x”, does that imply that McKinsey created AWS?

All your examples include "to", an specific demographic which implies it wasn't created by them, languages have a lot of subtext clues like that.

Indeed, it doesn’t imply creating a product; “introduce” can directly mean creating a product through the sense of originate: ”…create…” [1]

[1] https://www.thefreedictionary.com/originate

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