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Comment by jacooper | Hacker News Reader

Most people care about having cables that actually work and don't cost a ton to replace

And they’ve had that continuously since the iPhone came out so that’s a distraction from the real reason the EU acted: incompatibility. Lightning is a better connector but it’s not enough so to be worth so many people having cables which only work with one family of devices, especially since it’s not even Apple’s own laptops.

I found lightning worse than USB-C. So far none of my USB-C cables broke, however I already broke one lighting cable and my current one is only charging from one side. I sometimes plug it in with the wrong side up, and it doesn’t charge my phone. Then I have to plug it out, turn it by 180 degrees and plug it in again.

Anyway, these issues could be user issues or bad luck (so please don’t comment on this), but I have one nitpick which isn’t:

USB 2.0 speeds for pro-res footage are a joke. Why even praise your camera and the pro resolution format being introduced on iphone, when I can’t get it off my PC via cable vat decent speeds? I only used it once to make for a side project, and had ~30min of footage. Took about 1.5h to copy.

Lightning does not mandate USB 2.0 speed - there have been lightning ports on iPad Pro models which were capable of 3.0.

Likewise, USB-C ports on a spec-compliant device do not indicate greater than USB 2.0 speeds (e.g. high speed), nor do cables with USB-C ports on both ends indicate greater than high speed.

In fact, there are plenty of devices with USB-C ports which do not support data channels at all (but these tend to have compatibility issues due to not being able to negotiate power delivery)

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