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The article mentions that the doge image and subsequent meme predate Dogecoin.

Lol it IS A MEME. The image of that dog has been there since before bitcoin ever became mainstream. Later, people started doge coin as a joke. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/doge Somone messed their meme history class.

>Somone messed their meme history class.

The scary thing is such class may be necessary in the future. I don't believe I'm saying it about memes, but kids these days know nothing about anything!

They see somebody using Pepe and assume it's nazi symphatizer, they see word "trap" in reference to a person (I don't even know which alternative is currently not a slur) and instead of Admiral Ackbar they think about some murderer from 80s, doge they associate only with Dogecoin. How did this happen?

Probably, it's not just memes. Anything that becomes an icon for representation becomes associated with it Guy fawkes mask, bald eagle for USA etc. Something which is innocent on its own, if associated with something and reaches a bit virality, I think it can not be easily dissociated anymore.

> they see word "trap" in reference to a person [..] they think about some murderer from 80s

Maybe I'm showing my age but in my mind trap has a singular meaning, it hasn't changed since the early 2000s, and it has nothing to do with a murderer from the 80s. When did that change?

For the context: it's related to otokonoko (jap. 男の娘) trope, where a male has a culturally feminine gender expression (although the "reverse trap" also applies); notable example from modern media is Astolfo from Fate franchise. At the time popular reactionary meme to this was famous quote "It's a trap!" by Admiral Ackbar from Star Wars, thus through the evolution of the meme, at some point, in western anime communities "otokonoko" got aliased with "trap" (in fact, it was dominant word).

Now, some people on Reddit lacking the above context got it all wrong and thought it was pejorative about transgender people and started a fight with argumentation i.a. that the genesis of the term is from some defense speech by murderer.

I admit using a hyperbole, because I don't believe that example actually got used anywhere outside that pitiful Reddit "battle", but accusations of being thransphobe do happen (the same broken logic as with Pepe = nazi).

> Somone messed their meme history class

You are the one who missed your "meme history class"

Did you know it originates from the CIA? ;)

Either way, your original comment still fails, no? You started with Pozi scheme(False), then cia(again false), what next? Aliens encrypted message?

>Did you know it originates from the CIA? ;)

You right in the head?

Probably not, but it's ok, thanks for asking

Save this post in case you read some article about this "meme" in the future

I'm really curious how image of funny dog got turned into conspiracy theory

conspiracy?

meme?

choose one

I'm asking about your reasons for choosing conspiracy

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