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> What else would they be trained on?

why does it matter how it was trained? The question is, does the generative AI _output_ copyrighted images?

Training is not a right that the copyright holder owns exclusively. Reproducing the works _is_, but if the AI only reproduces a style, but not a copy, then it isn't breaking any copyright.

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Yes, because real artists are also allowed to learn from other paintings. No problem there, unless they recreate the exact work of others.

Banning AI from training on copyrighted works is also problematic because copyright doesn't protect ideas, it only protects expression. So the model has legitimate right to learn ideas (minus expression) from any source.

For example facts in the phonebook are not copyrighted, the authors have to mix fake data to be able claim copyright infringement. Maybe the models could finally learn how many fingers to draw on a hand.

Agree 100%. I misread the post as "given" rather than "giving" and was answering what I perceived the question to be–are models given copyright images–oops.

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