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> Nothing any OS vendor or browser vendor has done in the last decade has been a user-focused positive experience.

I mean, we got Rust out of the deal.

Ah Rust. I've written a few thousand lines. Nothing major. It feels like it's got the same personality as C++. You know a shit hot weapon that fires the world's most powerful missiles but at the same time makes embarrassing fart noises. I mean it's really good but I spend a lot of time defending the fart noises rather than firing the missiles.

> I spend a lot of time defending the fart noises rather than firing the missiles

My experience with it is that there is learning cliff to scale, rather than a gradual on-ramp like Python. The people complaining about the fart noises are complaining the cliff is too hard.

From my perspective near the bottom of the cliff, the people that grok the language tend to churn out things with a speed and quality I don't see elsewhere.

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