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Besides Google playing nice and fixing their stuff, is there a possible fix for this?

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Legislation demanding interoperability and humans we can call when problems arise.

Or better yet, break it up into Gmails A-Z. Force them to interop and compete.

Yes. Email is public infrastructure and Alphabet/Google should not be permitted to continue to stifle and control email.

Most teenagers don’t even use your “public infrastructure.” They never started with email and won’t unless they get a job with it.

I don’t think it’s public infrastructure.

Unfortunately it's difficult because Google is beholden to nobody. If you have an issue with a telecom blocking legitimate communications (including email), you can complain to the FCC, and it will get fixed shockingly expediently (hours, not days), meanwhile Google will happily ignore all regulatory bodies. Google is terrified of being classified as a telecom because telecoms are held accountable.

And yes, I have direct personal experience here. :)

If you’re being rate limited by IP, then I would guess you need more IPs to spread the load. Maybe even stagger these mass emails to send over 1-2 minutes.

We have two email servers for redundancy (like when Gmail is rate-limiting), not load. We send about 10,000 messages a day total, or about seven per minute, spread fairly evenly across the day. No mass email.

I suppose it would be an interesting exercise to slowly increase servers/IP addresses until rate limiting stops, but servers cost time and money.

Only way I know of is to pay a company that provides SMTP service and is too big for gmail to ignore. Some have free tiers if your volume is low. I switched my personal domain email over to sendgrid for that reason.

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