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Curious how usable it is for anything with CloudFlare. CloudFlare doesn't like browsers that block fingerprinting, and it doesn't like Tor Browser in my experience, and when I use Mullvad I also get way more CloudFlare Captchas, often getting stuck in an infinite loop. I'm focusing on CloudFlare because it seems half the sites I use are behind their firewall now. (e.g. I have to switch from Brave to Firefox every time I want to use ChatGPT...)

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I use LibreWolf (hardened Firefox) with Mullvad VPN and in my experience have hardly had any issues with Cloudflare (occasionally I might get a single Cloudflare captcha but this doesn't happen often). Tor browser, on the other hand, gives me tons of captchas and is barely usable.

Dear customers of Cloudflare: an appeal regarding Tor (2018)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17750801

Should this be concerning?

Cloudflare is bad for the web by now. There is way too much in their hands as well. I observe the same as you, infinite loops, that make me leave the sites where it happens. Probably many others experience the same, but the website owner will never know, because they put the blindfolds on.

Unfortunately it is hard to suggest alternatives. But maybe HN has some ideas how to self host something effective to avoid having to use something like Cloudflare?

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