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Perhaps this is some kind of negotiation tactic? An attempt to shame apple into paying better (doubtful) or a concession to accept lower wages plus tips in exchange for other benefits?

Either way, I will never tip a retail worker. I don't even tip for counter service at restaurants. I an exception to that policy during covid lockdowns, but once places opened up to indoor dining/shopping/drinking that's when my tips ended. If you aren't waiting on my table, refilling my drinks, checking in to make sure I have everything I need etc. no tips for you, and even that I only do begrudgingly. I've been to places where tipping isn't even a thing in restaurants and I loved it.

If apple grants them this request and they put out the tip jar, I hope customers just laugh while they press the "NO TIP" button at checkout.

Maybe, although I doubt it, I think they hit a wall with apple and started looking for other means.. who knows.

And indeed, I don’t tip at all, restaurants or else, the only time I tip is if I happen to order some foods online during snowy days, as I know the struggle the driver went through. I find it difficult to comprehend why tipping mostly goes to the waitresses, not who actually did the work, the chef -although some restaurants distribute the tip, mostly don’t-, waitresses job isn’t even essential, I can go and pick up the plates myself, or better, automate the process, we actually did build some robots in my field of work that do the same job, additionally, why do I have to tip the waitress but not the barista?! Even though the later one actually do something useful..

The restaurants’ owners are exploiting young employees, mostly college students or younger for a low wage, and shouldering the rest on the customers, I honestly think there should a bylaw to prevent those tips, as it enables that exploitation.

> I don’t tip at all

I'm not going to be able to change your mind here, so I'll just say that it's a very particular behavior from a particular type of person.

I agree with not tipping. A living wage should be paid by the employer. Not by the customer.

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