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I think you have to be completely ignorant of Musk's actions to think he's just the victim of a media conspiracy. Sure he's associated with massive, probably overall good projects, but that doesn't make his individual actions good, nor does the success of those projects stem directly from him.
Various "Some More News" videos. Humor, vulgar speech, talking about Musk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Zoy-it4cY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlL4xvn6xWE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-Y7U4LOTYY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9MO18F5Wi8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pNL7MlUpmI
whether that's true or not he also has a long record of good behavior.
starlink to Ukraine, providing power to children's hospitals, working to make the human race multi-planetary, trying to end reliance on gasoline... and on and on
focusing the dialogue on bad behavior which may or may not be true instead of trying to interpret his behavior in a positive, neutral, or accurate light
is the definition of trying to demonize someone
ok that's fine you can keep demonizing him.
No it isn't. I'm no great fan of Nick Cohen, but this article is at least well-argued enough to require as serious response, not a lazy dismissal. Cohen proposes a framework within which to interpret Musk's behavior and then provides any number of examples that support his interpretation, alongside historical parallels.
Personally, I'm more in the "Musk is a prick" camp than the "Musk is a proto-fascist" camp.
(Plus, please review what ad hominem means. It doesn't mean "saying nasty things about people I like" )
A while back I made a decision to stay well clear of any Musk related discourse as it generally attracts... not the best people. I kinda wish I had remembered that advice to myself now
Out.
Mate, you're turning this into a joke now. Get a grip.
How so? Please explain.
>>you should look at yourself.
What was it about ad hominem?
does it present numerous sides and possibilities for why Elon does the things that the article is attacking him for?
Or does the article present a singular interpretation for Elon's behavior?
So if you're describing someone's fascist behaviour, you now need to be fair to them? I'm sorry I didn't realize we have to find and explain the reasoning for someone's insane conspiracy theories - I guess next time Musk tweets that the moon landing was fake or some other crap, we'll have to find a reason why he thinks that, before being able to point out how stupid that is?
>>does it present numerous sides and possibilities for why Elon does the things that the article is attacking him for?
I'm really struggling to see how any of this is an attack. Is describing Erdogan's totalitarian practices also an attack on him? Or is it just when you don't preempt the article with a whole story as to why Erdogan behaves the way he does?
>>Or does the article present a singular interpretation for Elon's behavior?
Sure, it does. Like with any other article, you can read it and come up with a different conclusion, this is what the comments section is actually for. What isn't helpful is coming here and saying the whole article is an attack so should be dismissed - ok, cool, if you think Musk's general behaviour isn't leaning toward fascism lately then please explain why you think so, again, that's why we're here - to discuss.
This article presents a singular interpretation in a demonizing way.
If you're not able to separate this from propaganda then it's very unfortunate.
It's an editorial not a news article, I think maybe you got confused as to what this is. If you read an article in the Economist then it's also exactly this - it's an opinion piece. If you want a balanced viewpoint then read about it on the BBC website.
And I feel like I have to repeat it again - describing fascist behaviour for what it is, isn't demonizing. If you have alternative explanations for any of Musk's statements then I encourage you - yet again - to please share them.
>>If you're not able to separate this from propaganda then it's very unfortunate.
I think you literally can't even legitimately consider the possibility that Elon Musk is genuienly slipping into fascism and you will accept any explanation other than the obvious one.