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It's not Gruber's job, nor is it interesting to readers, to post his guesses about things which are NOT in the new release; what's more interesting is what IS there.

He _literally_ guesses that other journalist will receive the same personal briefing he gets.

Gruber TOLD us what is "different" now; what's different, clearly, is that journalists are being given briefings like this to spread the word in advance about OS changes.

You fell for his writing. "This is an awful lot of effort and attention in order to brief what I’m guessing is a list of a dozen or two writers and journalists." He never asked the question "How many other people will get this private presentation?" or anything equally basic.

An Apple VP specifically targeted Gruber's fanclub. He's a trustworthy sycophant.

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You have no idea whether he guessed, or whether he found out from Schiller. It's you who is guessing. BTW, he was right. Others did get the same briefing.

I didn't "fall for" anything. Nor do I care that you are guessing about what Gruber did or did not ask. You especially have no clue about other, conveniently unspecified things which you assume Gruber didn't ask about which are "basic", so I care even less about that.

Again, you are personally attacking Gruber's readers, as I pointed out earlier. Now you're doing it again. It's tiresome. Please stop.

Gruber's readers are not merely a "fanclub". They are readers who read Gruber's blog because they get information there. When I worked at Apple, I saw quite a few folks walking around in Daring Fireball t-shirts. I don't think that's an accident, nor does it reflect your reality of Gruber readers being a bunch of hypnotized fanboys.

Nor do I care that you are guessing about what Gruber did or did not ask.

He literally says he didn't ask about things being "done differently now" because it was uncomfortable. He literally says he guesses a list of others will receive the same briefing.

>When I worked at Apple

oh.

> oh.

Acting like someone doesn't have meaningful contribution to a dialogue because of where they have worked says more about you than the person you're conversing with.

The way I took "done differently now" was that it was in reference to Job's death, and I can understand why it would be uncomfortable to talk about it.

Uncomfortableness is often an excellent clue that you're close to something interesting and important. It's really too bad he didn't follow that one up.

I read this as him _literally_ guessing what the size of the list was, not that there was a list.

As has been noted elsewhere, a Time reporter described a personal briefing as well. I think you're assuming that his article is a complete transcript of the meeting and any followup conversations, rather than a vignette.

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