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Tesla cameras can't see through fog any better than eyes.

I think there's a reason why a new sensor suite is rumoured to be imminent. Much better cameras + radar? Key word being "Project Highland".

It won't be a retrofit for older cars, which tells me current owners won't get to experience that next generation on FSD which will be possible.

I never bought mine (Ryzen '22 LR3 with earlier gen radar, now disabled, plus USS - still in use fortunately) for the FSD anyway so I don't mind. I won't blame those who might do though! (This is presently all speculation/rumours until officially confirmed).

Must be out of the loop. HW4, which is higher resolution cameras and Phoenix HD Radar, has been in S/X for months and started showing up in (at least Fremont) Model Y's with a build date around May 25th. Highland has nothing to do with this, and Model 3 sales are still doing fine, so they don't need to drop anything yet to boost model 3 demand.

Dropping prices doesn’t even have to be about demand. Lot of rivals like Lucid and Rivian struggling mightily in this market. You can pinch them out. You also may just want to share production efficiency gains with the customer for the same reason.

Oh thanks, appreciate the updated info.

Model 3 currently has a $3000 discount to boost demand.

A 3k price drop shows they only need a little bit of a demand boost, especially since the discount is only on inventory cars. Highland will be a massive demand bump for them, since it being new likely pushes some Y purchasers to the 3.

It's only 3k because of the newly available 7500 credit.

Is this true though? Earlier today mine picked up on emergency lights that were several hundred feet further away in traffic than I would have seen them. It seems able to enhance the images the cameras capture.

Could also be aware of the position of fixed road equipment via mapping software. It's more plausible than the cameras having some kind of super vision.

It was a police car, not something fixed. I would imagine that the Tesla has zoom built into its camera system, whereas human vision does not.

Realistically the training data contained some amount of emergency lights through fog, so it can identify faint emergency lights through fog as real emergency lights and will appropriately display the warning on-screen.

Also, WAZE and Google maps have had user reported speed traps for some time. So 1 Tesla driving by information the network of the police car and others do not need to observe it to know it's there

Of course they can. Fog doesn't block mid-IR.

MWIR sensors are even more expensive than LIDAR, are military controlled and dofficult to export, and Tesla does not have them.

Lidar can't see through fog either.

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