he can talk to his lawyers on the phone.
he should be happy to be out of jail and go enjoy the outdoors!
he can talk to his lawyers on the phone.
he should be happy to be out of jail and go enjoy the outdoors!
Can he read about politics as part of his duty as a voter? Due to Internet as a medium for accessing news, he's further restricted on being an informed voter.
How is he meant to send material to his lawyers? "Mail it" So instead of sending it virtually for free, he has to print it out, determine postage, go find a postal office and then ship it. Vice versa to receive it but it takes time. Not to mention the massive phone bill because VOIP is INTERNET.
How is he going to be monitored from accessing Internet that's everywhere? Anti-Satellite jammers? Anti-Wifi jammers?
How is it possible to prevent him from giving the password to someone to start a megaupload website? Better prevent phones, mail, etc, in that case.
Since I know he's technically proficient, he's probably using the Internet as we speak. So this order only serves to pad the ego of the prosecution team, show incompetence of judge and punish honest people for being honest.
I think you might be overlooking that he's merely out on bail. That means he is still charged with the crimes he was arrested for. The court has decided that he is not a flight risk and so they are going to let him stay out until his trial rather than housing him in jail, but it is quite common for courts to place restrictions on the person as a condition of offering them bail.
Did we forget that Library Internet access issue thread already? There are crucial needs being served by the Internet just like water, electricity, security, etc.
"So how is he going to pay online-only bills?"
"Can he read about politics as part of his duty as a voter?"
Paying bills online and reading about politics are not human rights either. There are alternatives available for any task he's expected to do as a member of society. "Since I know he's technically proficient, he's probably using the Internet as we speak."
That's a really bad argument, and I think you know it. He very well may be online as we speak, his neighbors probably have an unsecured network, but why is that a good reason to intentionally give the man internet access? He's shown time and time again that he uses the internet to commit criminal acts, there is no reason for him to have that access.This is not a human rights violation.
I'm sorry, but Internet access is the human right. You're putting human right implications in my mouth.
The alternatives available? Jeez, I wonder how he can find out as an Internet user. Hopefully he had heard about yellow pages? Yes, there actually young people who do NOT understand non-Internet alternatives.
> He's shown time and time again that he uses the internet to commit criminal acts, there is no reason for him to have that access.
He used electricity too. So, cut off his electricity too? Remember, he needs electricity to run servers and not necessarily the Internet. Seize all electronics instead? He may have files embedded in the house alarm. Personally, I didn't want to respond because your rationale is asinine!
No, the internet has directly helped him commit crimes. It is a tool he used. As it is non-essential, and we may disagree on that point but the courts are agreeing with me, then it is logical to remove his privilege.
I don't believe my rationale is asinine at all. I think you're equating this man's freedom with the protection of the internet itself, and are overstepping your position because of it.
The Internet did not help him commit crimes, it's a neutral platform. They are merely carriers just like roads, servers, etc.
> I think you're equating this man's freedom with the protection of the internet itself, and are overstepping your position because of it.
Nope, I'm talking specifically about the human right to the Internet due to the necessities, abundance of electronics with access to Internet, many potential outlets and most of all; unenforceable to prevent access. I think you're overstepping your position again by implicating me with other positions when I've been quite clear.
On the question of if the internet is a human right, I think it's quite obvious the answer is no. It has never been viewed as one in the past as far as I know, I've yet to see a judge rule that to be the case.
A better question is, should it be? I'd like to see that happen, though I think it will take time to get there.
As for it being a human right from precedent, it's already recognised in some European countries (some of it even includes minimal Internet transfer rates) and discussed at UN. Unfortunately for UN, I believe certain influences do not want it to happen, eg USA based on ACTA's proposal that had included demands for three strikes among other Internet access restrictions.
There's a lot of information from this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_access and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Internet_access
No hard feelings, mate!
When it comes to cloud-based media though, realize that you don't own the content. You could have your account banned or content removed at any time, as decided by the courts or the company you're relying on.