I was referring to video, because you need to take into account visuals too. It would be simpler when it is audio-only.

I don't even fast forward through ads that aren't obnoxious. When it starts with three solid minutes of ads, then has a block of ads in the middle, then more at the end for a half-hour show, I'm either skipping or not listening.

If you don't want ads pay for it.

I do. Funny enough a lot of creators seem to be too lazy to edit all the ads out of their "ad-free" feeds. In one instance a creator I backed had more ads in their ad-free premium feed than I had in my original downloads of the show from when they got started. Screw that.

Not the one and only way for society to organize