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How do we know the Apollo guy is innocent either? I get a populist kind of vibe from him.

Um. Copious phone/meeting recordings he shared that you can listen to yourself?

He posted recordings of all the calls. Feel free to review those before spreading FUD.

Reddit has not disputed the validity of the recordings either.

It’s a he said she said situation. There is no demonstrable fact so to say.

It's demonstrably not, considering there are full audio recordings and transcripts.