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The next big worry is Github. Moving major open source projects off Github is going to be difficult. But we probably will have to go to architectures where there are multiple synchronized repositories some time in the next few years.

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OneDev: https://github.com/theonedev/onedev

Gogs: https://github.com/gogs/gogs

https://forgejo.org (hosted on Codeberg running.. Forgejo)

No gitea?

https://about.gitea.com/

The Gitea team is full of crypto shillers.

https://blog.gitea.io/2022/10/a-message-from-lunny-on-gitea-...

Their founder claims to have invented Gogs (he was one of the early committers) when the original author is another engineer

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitea

> Gitea was created by Lunny Xiao, who was also a founder of the self-hosted Git service Gogs.

https://about.sourcegraph.com/blog/three-years-at-sourcegrap...

> About the author Joe Chen is Software Engineer and maintainer of the open source project Gogs, a painless self-hosted Git service. You can chat with Joe on Twitter @jc_unknwon or our community Discord

Just to clarify, we (Gitea) are not crypto shillers, the linked post explicitly mentions not creating some scamcoin. Beyond that, we also haven't looked further into it as it became increasingly clear it was unwanted.

I'm unsure about the wording on Wikipedia, but I don't recall Lunny ever trying to take all the credit, just that he was an early and frequent committer.

And that's why I'm betting on Forgejo https://forgejo.org/

I use OneDev in my homelab to host code, both mine and OSS forks, and run CI jobs. I’m pretty happy with it, except for the limited community/figuring things out on your own vibe to it.

Hi, OneDev author here. Thanks for mentioning it. For any questions, please visit https://code.onedev.io/onedev/server/~issues to get support.

Thank you for your great work! I will surely reach out in the issue tracker in the future if need be.

The Java web framework (Apache Wicket) it uses is vintage, about as old as Rails.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Wicket

Isn't that how git is designed to be?

Git, yes. Github, no. Github has many Github-only features such as "continuous integration". Those need to become portable, so you can run your builds on AWS or Hurricane Electric as desired.

It's become dangerous for open source to rely on anyone who can cut off your air supply. Look at the current flap over Red Hat.

GitLab has many of Github's features including CI, no? https://tomasvotruba.com/blog/how-can-we-use-github-actions-.... Furthermore, GitLab can be self-hosted and the CI can be configured to use your own VMs.

My team does CI in gitlab, and many big organizations use self-hosted instances GitLab like KDE and GNOME.

We do the same with Gitlab -- self-hosted, using their gitlabrunner as the CI agent. It's great!

Good thing that Gitea has/is worked/working on a compatible Ci/CD pipeline.

Not sure if it’s 100% compatible yet, but that’s their goal.

I haven't personally done it much, but it seems like moving CI should be relatively straightforward as long as your pipelines are mostly just npm/make/cargo/bash/etc scripts. If all of your actual logic is in your build system, the bit of yaml that defines the infrastructure on a particular CI platform shouldn't be very complicated to move.

"Run this script in this container and cache these outputs."

Projects on Github are more than git. Commits can move, but issues, pull requests, role mappings, wikis, and Actions, are all potentially impossible/difficult to migrate elsewhere.

I agree in general, but the wiki specifically is just another git repository that you can clone.

e.g. for a repo at mholm/myrepo

  git clone https://github.com/mholm/myrepo.wiki

Yeah it’s only a matter of time before enshittification comes for that too.

I'm not sure about that. Microsoft is Commoditizing its Complement. I have a free repository on GitHub that auto-deploys to a paid Azure host. If GitHub wasn't as good as it was, M$ wouldn't have my $.

Possible future problems:

- Github actions putting Microsoft "telemetry" into projects being built.[1]

- "Please log in with your Microsoft account."

- "But first, this word from our sponsor".

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/4ibauu/visual_studio_a...

Your first possibility is rather chilling in its implications. Imagine a bulk install of MS spyware on billions and billions of devices. I bet the TOS allows it.

The trust we hand these silos in exchange for convenience is just ludicrous.

Gitlab, yeah? We deployed an instance a while back and then found the server cost was high to where it still made sense to use github for now

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