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A lot of those folks in the developing world are going to die from the new heat normal, and no one is going to do anything about it. Tragic to be sure.

> To ask these countries to reduce their energy requirements is to ask their citizens to live a lower standard of life. Hypocritical of those in the West to make that request.

Without a hint of sarcasm or snark, life isn’t fair. We’re on a trajectory of progress (energy transition) and reduction in quality of life (excess heat deaths) for various geographic cohorts, and not much is going to bend either curve.

https://www.un.org/en/chronicle/article/devastating-worlds-p...

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It's been tradition in Algeria to migrate to the coast during the summer-months, since forever. Other locations similarly popular is mountain regions.

That's going to continue to work for many years and degrees to come, so I'm not sure if the problem really is as severe as you think.

Coastal properties in Western nations are the most expensive in general

Not all coastal properties are low lying. Florida is going to get decimated by sea level rises, California is going to lose maybe a few feet of beach in comparison.

In Algeria, there seems to be space enough by the coast.

We were talking about survival, not luxury living.

Yeah, that's without question. Overall energy needs will still continue to increase during that time, global population growth will almost certainly continue as well.

Right, you're spot on. We're lucky in that fertility is plummeting across the world [1], which means the population peak won't be too high [2], but we're still going to have to provide for all the people who are going to exist over the course of the next century.

The world is rapidly aging [3]; we should build renewables while we still have a young, productive worker cohort [4]. How are people who are going to want or need to migrate, to survive carbon emissions catching up with us, going to? No idea.

[1] https://ourworldindata.org/fertility-rates/

[2] https://ourworldindata.org/population-growth-over-time

[3] https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/ageing-and-...

[4] https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/03/electricity-generatio...

Interesting. I thought "plummeting" deserved correction, but it's me who was wrong: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-number-of-births-b...

It has risen and fallen in the past, but nonetheless it's quite a decline at the moment.

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