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We are ultimately talking about wanting the best outcome for all young people and sons and daughters. If you have an axe to grind take it elsewhere. It might be hard to accept, but some people really want to see everyone succeed.

We should always go to data but the education system should strive to give people a chance. Maybe the problem is way earlier in this case but it's worth trying.

Classic tactic you got there. "This area is only for the righteous, if you have any criticism in our methods, please leave."

The reply was condescending and the poster can get lost. I won't apologize for a thing. They can post a top level comment if they want to kick up sand.

He literally said "I would expect the same consideration for women"

I think it's wise to avoid looking for misogynists in every conversation about gender. It makes life more pleasant! :)

Bit of incel energy from you here. Girls have been outperforming boys in education for a good 30 years, longer than a decent portion of us have been alive.

If this were true, SAT math scores for girls would be higher than boys. Math is the only portion of the test that can be scored objectively. The reality is, there are systemic biases in every component of education today that favor girls.

In the UK, girls overtook boys in maths results in 2021 (at least, when looking at top grades). This was the first time girls had got more top grades in maths, and just so happened to be a year when exams were cancelled due to COVID and grades were "estimated" by teachers instead. When exams resumed the next year:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/18/a-level-grades-g...

> Boys also retook the lead over girls at the top grade for maths in 2022 after girls out-performed boys at the A* grade for the first time in 2021. Last year, 29.1 per cent of girls were awarded A*, compared with 28.5 per cent of boys.

Not surprising at all. What is surprising is that boys are still good at math, despite being beaten down year after year by a girl focused environment.

Are you saying that SAT scores in math are about equal but scores for other sections heavily diverge?

Having never written them I genuinely have no frame of reference but would be interested to find data to back this up since it's quite the lofty assertion.

I would more likely have guessed that aptitude in these areas was not as strong for some other reason.

Math scores for boys are higher than girls. So the statement that girls exceed boys in education is objectively false.

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