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This intel one is 7nm and apple bought every 3nm capacity this year. I feel like apple is beating intel on chips.

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This isn't a production unit, but a research project to play with silicon photonics.

Intel 7nm and TSMC 3nm are roughly equivalent, they both have a transistor density of 200 - 250 MTr/mm2.

No, there is no Intel 7nm anymore, it was renamed to Intel 4. But there is instead an Intel 7, which is the previous Intel 10nm ESF.

This marks the point where they changed their naming scheme, so that Intel 7 is roughly comparable to TSMC N7 (not to TSMC N3, which would be Intel 4).

And this chip is on TSMC 7nm per the article, not Intel 7 or Intel 4 (the former "7nm").

Irrelevant since this is TSMC 7nm.

TSMC is beating Intel on chips*

Yeah, also “7nm” and “3nm” aren't actually measuring the same thing (IIRC Intel 7nm is equivalent to TSMC 5nm)

well if the measurements are only marketing words now, then intel should just measure something else and say that they have 2nm

That’s exactly what Intel are planning to do

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/07/intels-foundry-roadm...

Yeah kinda, they basically did a rebrand recently.

Apple only had 90% of TSMC's 3nm capacity this year, with Intel contracted for the other 10. They had delays, so TSMC is producing fewer wafers.

Edit - per the article, this chip is actually fabbed by TSMC on their nm process.

That was the rumor, but there's more recently been reports that Apple has taken up all 3nm capacity.

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/apple-bought-all-of-ts...

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