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Has much consideration been given to labeling when a third party cloud or paid service is required to use the device? As somebody who uses IoT devices "locally" on my private network, I want to know my data will stay local and protected. The recent issues with Eufy doorbells claiming to be under local control [and encrypting data], but actually sending data to the cloud stands out to me as an example where labeling and enforcement could help.

[0] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/11/eufys-no-clouds-came...

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Right now, the actual requirements for a label are totally up for grabs. This would make for a good public comment, in my opinion.

Thank you for your response, I'll consider submitting it.

For context, I've thought about commenting on issues in the past, but especially on the heels of the fake comments regarding net neutrality, for lack of a better way to put it I'm left feeling outgunned against such sophisticated lawyers and companies. This may be a little paranoid, but from a risk perspective I also worry about having my name attached to comments that go against the interests of large companies which dominate the marketplace. I also have hesitation about identity theft and uncertainty about the process.

Again, thank you for bring the conversation home, so to speak. I'll look at the process again.

> required to use the device

The Eufy story was blown out of proportion. Alarmist tech clickbait. There was no requirement to use the cloud. People were misled into believing their Eufy cameras were spying on them, or doing bad things, or easily hacked by anyone armed with the "knowledge" found in the arstechnica story and numerous repeater channels.

Today in 2023, the Eufy cameras are solid, I like how they work. Zero subscription costs, local storage expansion, optional cloud storage, no cloud dependency, and the cameras keep recording if your home internet goes down. If you want thumbnails included in push notifications, then tick the box in settings where is says underneath: "thumbnails will be temporarily stored in the cloud".

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